The breakfast club

Julia Stewart, the sharp-talking CEO of IHOP, gives author Nora Ephron a run for her money as the two candidly discuss careers, family and, of course, pancakes.

The glass ceiling
The glass ceiling
As a screenwriter, Ephron is fascinated with spoken language.

She was curious about the dialogue that occurs - what's said and what's not said - between a boss and a female employee when it's clear that she's not going to move any higher.

Stewart was able to oblige with a real-world example that showed the glass ceiling still exists.

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The glass ceiling



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